Saturday, April 9, 2011

Found an old post I made

On January 17, 2006 I post the following, I will make corrections I have discovered since then in blue:

This maybe way out there, but I would like to see if anyone has info on these people. The 1855 census said Russell was born in Oswego County, I put that in my database. But reexamining the 1865 census I found that he was born in Onondaga County. I checked the dates of the counties to see when they became counties. Then because he was born in 1834 I checked 1830
census for Onondaga, bingo Gardner Waite with wife, 1 boy 5-9, 1 10-14, 1 30-39
(himself), 1 40-49 ? girls 1 0-4, 2 5-9, 1 10-14, 1 30-39 (Phoebe) in
Cicero

I found them again in 1820 in Onondaga in Manlius, the ages of them and the kids fit. In 1830 I find the two of them in Galway, Saratoga. From there I tried to fill in the kids names. There are not a lot of Waits in Onondaga so assuming they are all related I put this together. I found Phoebe twice in 1850 the dates that the census where taken are different so I thought it maybe possible that she was counted twice. It appears to me that she may have been taking younger sons to live with older sons. I can not find Gardiner/Gardner again after 1830 until the 1855 census when they are both living with Russell. The other reason I believe they may be connected is that most of the men are coopers and the names are used over and over. The Loomis connection is where I believe Russell may have come from.


I discovered that Phoebe is Phoebe Shepard, the daughter of Russel Shepard and Susannah Doty. So Russell was named after Phoebe's father.


Like I said this is a big assumption and if anyone out there can help me prove or disprove this I will be grateful.

Descendants of Ezra Wait found him living with in Cicero with a family that I am guess could be an older wait daughter
1 Ezra Wait 1768 - Not sure where I got this
........ 2 Gardner Wait 1789 -
............ +Phoebe Loomis Shepard not Loomis 1792  - (assuming last name because in 1850 and Waite girls is living with older Loomis, brother and mother??) Maria Shepard is Phoebe's sister who married Russel Loomis, so I still believe the Maria Waite that was living Russel and Maria Loomis is their daughter

................... 3 Harvey Wait 1816 - 17 May 1899 Poor House, Wayne, New York - Harvey got his land from her father....................... +Betsey Ann Kinne 1824 - 02 May 1889 Lyons, Wayne County, New York............................. 4 Wesley Wait 1846 - more info
............................. 4 William Wait 1848 -more info
............................. 4 Harriet Wait 1854  more info
............................. 4 Russell R Wait 1858 more info
................... 3 Polly Wait 1818 Married Stephen Hart and is buried in Cicero Cemetery with Phoebe's family members
................... 3 Susannah married Henry Kinne Betsey uncle
................... 3 Matilda Wait 1824 -
....................... +Daniel Tarpenny 1822 -
............................. 4 Eugene Tarpenny 1849 -
................... 3 Harriet Wait 1825 - (Phoebe is
living here in 1860 assume it's her daughter)
....................... +Charles Y Fleton 1825 -
................... 3 Jeremiah Wait 1826 -
....................... +Betsey wait 1822 -
............................. 4 Alfred Huff 1847 -
............................. 4 Harriet Babe 1845 -
............................. 4 Phoebe Waite 1852 -
............................. 4 Martha Waite 1864 -
............................. 4 Charles Waite 1867 -
............................. 4 Lillies Waite 1862 -
................... 3 Maria b.30 Jul 1822 d.30 Aug 1891 m. Enoch Cowham
................... 3 Russell Wait 1834 - 1900
....................... +Emma Jean VanHoosen 1844 - 1917
............................. 4 [8] Emma Jane Waite 1854 - 1925
................................. +[9]Lyman Hooper 1864 - 1932
............................. 4 [11] Charles L Waite 1857 - 1936
................................. +[12] Etta Freeman 1859 - 1919
........................................ 5 [13] Emma Mae Waite 1878 -
............................................ +[14] Jones
........................................ 5 [15] Charles M Waite 1879 -
........................................ 5 [16] Alfred Waite 1880 - 1882

........................................ 5 [17] Lillian Waite 1882 -
1935
............................................ +[18] Myron Johnson 1877 -
1968

........................................ 5 [22] George L Waite 1884 -
1961
............................................ +[23] Grace Olin Dingman
1876 -
1932
........................................ 5 [28] Floyd H Waite 1889 -
1958
............................................ +[29] Lavina Gridley 1899 -
1998
........................................ 5 [32] Leon Bradford Waite 1894
-
............................................ +[33] Yuma Christiana
Persons
1902 -
........................................ 5 [34] Willis C Waite 1896 -
1961
........................................ 5 [35] Avery E Waite 1896 -
1968
............................................ +[36] Myrtle Alt
.................................................. 6 [37] Floyd Waite
1922 -
2003
........................................ 5 [38] Aietta Waite 1899 - 1900

............................. 4 [39] Willard Wesley Waite 1860 - 1953
................................. +[40] Maryetta E VanHoosen 1859 - 1936

........................................ 5 [41] Charles Waite 1878 -
........................................ 5 [42] Emma Jane Waite 1880 -
........................................ 5 [43] George Garield Waite
1881 -
1968
............................................ +[44] Annie Emogene
Stafford
1885 - 1963
........................................ 5 [63] Harry Addison Waite 1883
-
1967
............................................ +[64] Edith Kellogg 1893 -
1979

........................................ 5 [87] Earl V Waite 1885 - 1966

........................................ 5 [88] Willard Wesley Waite
1887 -
1971
............................................ +[89] Grace Belle Peckham
1895
- 1951
........................................ *2nd Wife of [88] Willard
Wesley
Waite:
............................................ +[90] Myrtle Spry
........................................ 5 [93] Albertie A Waite 1890 -
........................................ 5 [94] Samuel D Waite 1895 -
1957
............................................ +[95] Ella Tiff 1908 - 1991

............................. 4 Henry Marvin Waite 1863 - 1922
................................. +Martha Elizabeth Sloper 1866 - 1948
........................................ 5 Edgar Arthur Waite 1886 -
1949
............................................ +Emma Caird 1906 - 1971
........................................ 5 Bertha May Waite 1888 - 1977
............................................ +Arthur White 1884 - 1942
........................................ *2nd Husband of Bertha May
Waite:
............................................ +Jay Shear 1889 - 1965
........................................ 5 Ray Bertie Waite 1893 - 1915
............................................ +Adah Champion waite 1893 -

........................................ 5 Ora Edmund Waite 1899 - 1948
............................................ +Henrietta W Caird 1902 -
1970
............................. 4 Frank Monroe Waite 1865 - 1922
................................. +Emma Jean Tiff waite 1908 - 1991
............................. 4 Horace Rueben Waite 1868 - 1948
................................. +Mary O'Donnell 1869 - 1919
........................................ 5 Leo F Waite 1899 -
............................................ +Blanche C Waite 1905 -
........................................ 5 Nellie Jane Waite 1892 -
............................................ +James Dougher 1882 -
........................................ 5 Anna M Waite 1890 -
............................. 4 Frederick Libeous Waite 1870 - 1947
................................. +Mary Louisa Sloper 1875 - 1945
........................................ 5 Eva May Waite 1894 - 1896
........................................ 5 Harriet Jane Waite 1898 -
1900
........................................ 5 Rawson Orlando Waite 1901 -
1984
........................................ 5 Emma Mae Waite 1903 - 1973
............................................ +Moses March 1899 - 1947
........................................ 5 Rosalie Adah Waite 1906 -
1906
........................................ 5 Violet Irene Waite 1910 -
1911
........................................ 5 Flora Belle Waite 1912 - 1992

............................................ +Floyd Eugene Dougherty
1904 -
1975
........................................ 5 Clarence Leland Waite 1915 -
............................................ +Mary Mae Miller 1933 -
1978
........................................ 5 James Edward Waite 1924 -
............................................ +Mabel Doretha Sutton
Durbar
1928 - 2002
............................. 4 Lucius Tanner Waite 1873 - 1957
................................. +Etta Jane Sloper 1879 - 1943
........................................ 5 Irene Elizabeth Sloper 1910 -

............................. 4 Harriett Malinda Waite 1876 - 1960
................................. +William Spencer Trumble 1872 - 1943
........................................ 5 Gladys Viola Trumble 1913 -
............................................ +Charles Myrul Trumble 1911
-
1969
........................................ 5 Harry Russell Trumble 1914 -
2004

............................................ +Norma Edith Tompson 1917 -

.................................................. 6 Paul Arthur Trumble
1938 - 1960
................... *2nd Wife of Russell Wait:
....................... +Getty Eliza VanHoosen 1839 - 1862
............................. 4 [8] Emma Jane Waite 1854 - 1925
................................. +[9] unknow
............................. *2nd Husband of [8] Emma Jane Waite:
................................. +[10] Lyman Hooper 1864 - 1932
............................. 4 [11] Charles L Waite 1857 - 1936
................................. +[12] Etta Freeman 1859 - 1919
........................................ 5 [13] Emma Mae Waite 1878 -
............................................ +[14] Jones
........................................ 5 [15] Charles M Waite 1879 -
........................................ 5 [16] Alfred Waite 1880 - 1882

........................................ 5 [17] Lillian Waite 1882 -
1935
............................................ +[18] Myron Johnson 1877 -
1968

.................................................. 6 [19] Dorothy M
Johnson
1914 -
.................................................. 6 [20] Ethel H
Johnson
1920 -
.................................................. 6 [21] Baby Johnson
1900
- 1900
........................................ 5 [22] George L Waite 1884 -
1961
............................................ +[23] Grace Olin Dingman
1876 -
1932
.................................................. 6 [24] Donald Waite
1910
-
.................................................. 6 [25] Howard Waite
1911
-
...................................................... +[26] Ida J 1912
-
.................................................. 6 [27] Lena M Sauers
1918
-
........................................ 5 [28] Floyd H Waite 1889 -
1958
............................................ +[29] Lavina Gridley 1899 -
1998
.................................................. 6 [30] Arline Waite
1924
-
.................................................. 6 [31] Mabel Waite
1925 -

........................................ 5 [32] Leon Bradford Waite 1894
-
............................................ +[33] Yuma Christiana
Persons
1902 -
........................................ 5 [34] Willis C Waite 1896 -
1961
........................................ 5 [35] Avery E Waite 1896 -
1968
............................................ +[36] Myrtle Alt
.................................................. 6 [37] Floyd Waite
1922 -
2003
........................................ 5 [38] Aietta Waite 1899 - 1900

............................. 4 [39] Willard Wesley Waite 1860 - 1953
................................. +[40] Maryetta E VanHoosen 1859 - 1936

........................................ 5 [41] Charles Waite 1878 -
........................................ 5 [42] Emma Jane Waite 1880 -
........................................ 5 [43] George Garield Waite
1881 -
1968
............................................ +[44] Annie Emogene
Stafford
1885 - 1963
.................................................. 6 [45] Willard W
Waite
1911 - 1992
.................................................. 6 [57] Evelyn L Waite
1921 -
.................................................. 6 [59] Mildard E
Waite
1928 -
.................................................. 6 [60] Gertrude Waite

.................................................. 6 [62] Clifford Waite

........................................ 5 [63] Harry Addison Waite 1883
-
1967
............................................ +[64] Edith Kellogg 1893 -
1979

.................................................. 6 [65] Bertha Waite
.................................................. 6 [67] Henry Waite -
2000

.................................................. 6 [68] Mertie Waite
.................................................. 6 [70] Robert Waite -
1979
.................................................. 6 [71] Violet Waite -
1979
.................................................. 6 [73] Eva May Waite
1917
- 2000
.................................................. 6 [75] Kenneth K
Waite
1920 -
.................................................. 6 [76] Anna E Waite
1922
-
...................................................... +[77] Glenn
Pickard
.................................................. 6 [78] Clarence
Willard
Waite 1924 -
...................................................... +[79] Lois Emma
.................................................. 6 [82] Dorothy E
Waite
1925 -
...................................................... +[83] Alfred
Waite
.................................................. 6 [84] Della E Waite
1926
-
...................................................... +[85] Charles
Clintsman
.................................................. 6 [86] Lloyd Waite
1929 -

........................................ 5 [87] Earl V Waite 1885 - 1966

........................................ 5 [88] Willard Wesley Waite
1887 -
1971
............................................ +[89] Grace Belle Peckham
1895
- 1951
........................................ *2nd Wife of [88] Willard
Wesley
Waite:
............................................ +[90] Myrtle Spry
........................................ 5 [93] Albertie A Waite 1890 -
........................................ 5 [94] Samuel D Waite 1895 -
1957
............................................ +[95] Ella Tiff 1908 - 1991

G. Addison Wait

I thought he was one of Gardiner's sons, but he is the son of Luther Wait and Emily Bancroft as per his Civil War papers. He is born on 19 Oct 1840 in Sandy Hill, New York. I looked up Sandy Hill and found;

As early as 1792, the area of Kingsbury near Baker's Falls was referred to as Sandy Hill. In 1810, the hamlet incorporated as a village, keeping the name Sandy Hill. Its boundaries expanded to their current limits in the 1840's. In 1910, the village's name was changed to Hudson Falls.[3]

Friday, April 1, 2011

Their Children

Gardiner Waite was listed as a Cooper; I believe he made barrel for the salt company/companies.
He married Phoebe Shepard in about 1815, possibly in Cicero, if not most likely in Onondaga County.
He bought property in Cicero, Onondaga, New York. Lot 9 in 1822 from Jonathan Emmons and lot 10 in 1828 from John and Matilda Ramsay. I first fine him living in Manlius, Onondaga, County in 1820. In 1830 and 1840 he is listed in Cicero, Onondaga County, New York.

He is listed on the 1820 Census in Manlius, Onondaga, New York
1830 in Cicero, Onondaga, New York
1840 in Cicero, Onondaga, New York

I cannot find him on 1850 census, but I find Phoebe listed twice. It appears to me that all the younger children are staying with older siblings or other relatives. Maybe Gardiner was working somewhere, by this time they had lost their property.

The last time I can find Gardiner is on the 1855 Census, he and Phoebe are both living with Russell in Altmar, Oswego, New York

I believe the following are children of Gardiner and Phoebe;

Harvey A Waite born 1816 in Cicero, Onondaga, New York
Susannah Waite born 1817 in Cicero, Onondaga, New York
Polly Waite born 05 Dec 1818 in Cicero, Onondaga, New York
Maria Waite born 30 Jul 1822
Harriet Waite born 1825
Jeremiah W Wait born 1826
Sophia Waite born 1831
Russell Waite born 21 Feb 1834 in Onondaga, New York
Charles Waite born 1838

A Possible child – G Addison Wait, listed in Civil War documents as being from Cicero, Onondaga, New York.