On January 17, 2006 I post the following, I will make corrections I have discovered since then in blue:
This maybe way out there, but I would like to see if anyone has info on these people. The 1855 census said Russell was born in Oswego County, I put that in my database. But reexamining the 1865 census I found that he was born in Onondaga County. I checked the dates of the counties to see when they became counties. Then because he was born in 1834 I checked 1830
census for Onondaga, bingo Gardner Waite with wife, 1 boy 5-9, 1 10-14, 1 30-39
(himself), 1 40-49 ? girls 1 0-4, 2 5-9, 1 10-14, 1 30-39 (Phoebe) in
Cicero
I found them again in 1820 in Onondaga in Manlius, the ages of them and the kids fit. In 1830 I find the two of them in Galway, Saratoga. From there I tried to fill in the kids names. There are not a lot of Waits in Onondaga so assuming they are all related I put this together. I found Phoebe twice in 1850 the dates that the census where taken are different so I thought it maybe possible that she was counted twice. It appears to me that she may have been taking younger sons to live with older sons. I can not find Gardiner/Gardner again after 1830 until the 1855 census when they are both living with Russell. The other reason I believe they may be connected is that most of the men are coopers and the names are used over and over. The Loomis connection is where I believe Russell may have come from.
I discovered that Phoebe is Phoebe Shepard, the daughter of Russel Shepard and Susannah Doty. So Russell was named after Phoebe's father.
Like I said this is a big assumption and if anyone out there can help me prove or disprove this I will be grateful.
Descendants of Ezra Wait found him living with in Cicero with a family that I am guess could be an older wait daughter
1 Ezra Wait 1768 - Not sure where I got this
........ 2 Gardner Wait 1789 -
............ +Phoebe Loomis Shepard not Loomis 1792 - (assuming last name because in 1850 and Waite girls is living with older Loomis, brother and mother??) Maria Shepard is Phoebe's sister who married Russel Loomis, so I still believe the Maria Waite that was living Russel and Maria Loomis is their daughter
................... 3 Harvey Wait 1816 - 17 May 1899 Poor House, Wayne, New York - Harvey got his land from her father....................... +Betsey Ann Kinne 1824 - 02 May 1889 Lyons, Wayne County, New York............................. 4 Wesley Wait 1846 - more info
............................. 4 William Wait 1848 -more info
............................. 4 Harriet Wait 1854 more info
............................. 4 Russell R Wait 1858 more info
................... 3 Polly Wait 1818 Married Stephen Hart and is buried in Cicero Cemetery with Phoebe's family members
................... 3 Susannah married Henry Kinne Betsey uncle
................... 3 Matilda Wait 1824 -
....................... +Daniel Tarpenny 1822 -
............................. 4 Eugene Tarpenny 1849 -
................... 3 Harriet Wait 1825 - (Phoebe is
living here in 1860 assume it's her daughter)
....................... +Charles Y Fleton 1825 -
................... 3 Jeremiah Wait 1826 -
....................... +Betsey wait 1822 -
............................. 4 Alfred Huff 1847 -
............................. 4 Harriet Babe 1845 -
............................. 4 Phoebe Waite 1852 -
............................. 4 Martha Waite 1864 -
............................. 4 Charles Waite 1867 -
............................. 4 Lillies Waite 1862 -
................... 3 Maria b.30 Jul 1822 d.30 Aug 1891 m. Enoch Cowham
................... 3 Russell Wait 1834 - 1900
....................... +Emma Jean VanHoosen 1844 - 1917
............................. 4 [8] Emma Jane Waite 1854 - 1925
................................. +[9]Lyman Hooper 1864 - 1932
............................. 4 [11] Charles L Waite 1857 - 1936
................................. +[12] Etta Freeman 1859 - 1919
........................................ 5 [13] Emma Mae Waite 1878 -
............................................ +[14] Jones
........................................ 5 [15] Charles M Waite 1879 -
........................................ 5 [16] Alfred Waite 1880 - 1882
........................................ 5 [17] Lillian Waite 1882 -
1935
............................................ +[18] Myron Johnson 1877 -
1968
........................................ 5 [22] George L Waite 1884 -
1961
............................................ +[23] Grace Olin Dingman
1876 -
1932
........................................ 5 [28] Floyd H Waite 1889 -
1958
............................................ +[29] Lavina Gridley 1899 -
1998
........................................ 5 [32] Leon Bradford Waite 1894
-
............................................ +[33] Yuma Christiana
Persons
1902 -
........................................ 5 [34] Willis C Waite 1896 -
1961
........................................ 5 [35] Avery E Waite 1896 -
1968
............................................ +[36] Myrtle Alt
.................................................. 6 [37] Floyd Waite
1922 -
2003
........................................ 5 [38] Aietta Waite 1899 - 1900
............................. 4 [39] Willard Wesley Waite 1860 - 1953
................................. +[40] Maryetta E VanHoosen 1859 - 1936
........................................ 5 [41] Charles Waite 1878 -
........................................ 5 [42] Emma Jane Waite 1880 -
........................................ 5 [43] George Garield Waite
1881 -
1968
............................................ +[44] Annie Emogene
Stafford
1885 - 1963
........................................ 5 [63] Harry Addison Waite 1883
-
1967
............................................ +[64] Edith Kellogg 1893 -
1979
........................................ 5 [87] Earl V Waite 1885 - 1966
........................................ 5 [88] Willard Wesley Waite
1887 -
1971
............................................ +[89] Grace Belle Peckham
1895
- 1951
........................................ *2nd Wife of [88] Willard
Wesley
Waite:
............................................ +[90] Myrtle Spry
........................................ 5 [93] Albertie A Waite 1890 -
........................................ 5 [94] Samuel D Waite 1895 -
1957
............................................ +[95] Ella Tiff 1908 - 1991
............................. 4 Henry Marvin Waite 1863 - 1922
................................. +Martha Elizabeth Sloper 1866 - 1948
........................................ 5 Edgar Arthur Waite 1886 -
1949
............................................ +Emma Caird 1906 - 1971
........................................ 5 Bertha May Waite 1888 - 1977
............................................ +Arthur White 1884 - 1942
........................................ *2nd Husband of Bertha May
Waite:
............................................ +Jay Shear 1889 - 1965
........................................ 5 Ray Bertie Waite 1893 - 1915
............................................ +Adah Champion waite 1893 -
........................................ 5 Ora Edmund Waite 1899 - 1948
............................................ +Henrietta W Caird 1902 -
1970
............................. 4 Frank Monroe Waite 1865 - 1922
................................. +Emma Jean Tiff waite 1908 - 1991
............................. 4 Horace Rueben Waite 1868 - 1948
................................. +Mary O'Donnell 1869 - 1919
........................................ 5 Leo F Waite 1899 -
............................................ +Blanche C Waite 1905 -
........................................ 5 Nellie Jane Waite 1892 -
............................................ +James Dougher 1882 -
........................................ 5 Anna M Waite 1890 -
............................. 4 Frederick Libeous Waite 1870 - 1947
................................. +Mary Louisa Sloper 1875 - 1945
........................................ 5 Eva May Waite 1894 - 1896
........................................ 5 Harriet Jane Waite 1898 -
1900
........................................ 5 Rawson Orlando Waite 1901 -
1984
........................................ 5 Emma Mae Waite 1903 - 1973
............................................ +Moses March 1899 - 1947
........................................ 5 Rosalie Adah Waite 1906 -
1906
........................................ 5 Violet Irene Waite 1910 -
1911
........................................ 5 Flora Belle Waite 1912 - 1992
............................................ +Floyd Eugene Dougherty
1904 -
1975
........................................ 5 Clarence Leland Waite 1915 -
............................................ +Mary Mae Miller 1933 -
1978
........................................ 5 James Edward Waite 1924 -
............................................ +Mabel Doretha Sutton
Durbar
1928 - 2002
............................. 4 Lucius Tanner Waite 1873 - 1957
................................. +Etta Jane Sloper 1879 - 1943
........................................ 5 Irene Elizabeth Sloper 1910 -
............................. 4 Harriett Malinda Waite 1876 - 1960
................................. +William Spencer Trumble 1872 - 1943
........................................ 5 Gladys Viola Trumble 1913 -
............................................ +Charles Myrul Trumble 1911
-
1969
........................................ 5 Harry Russell Trumble 1914 -
2004
............................................ +Norma Edith Tompson 1917 -
.................................................. 6 Paul Arthur Trumble
1938 - 1960
................... *2nd Wife of Russell Wait:
....................... +Getty Eliza VanHoosen 1839 - 1862
............................. 4 [8] Emma Jane Waite 1854 - 1925
................................. +[9] unknow
............................. *2nd Husband of [8] Emma Jane Waite:
................................. +[10] Lyman Hooper 1864 - 1932
............................. 4 [11] Charles L Waite 1857 - 1936
................................. +[12] Etta Freeman 1859 - 1919
........................................ 5 [13] Emma Mae Waite 1878 -
............................................ +[14] Jones
........................................ 5 [15] Charles M Waite 1879 -
........................................ 5 [16] Alfred Waite 1880 - 1882
........................................ 5 [17] Lillian Waite 1882 -
1935
............................................ +[18] Myron Johnson 1877 -
1968
.................................................. 6 [19] Dorothy M
Johnson
1914 -
.................................................. 6 [20] Ethel H
Johnson
1920 -
.................................................. 6 [21] Baby Johnson
1900
- 1900
........................................ 5 [22] George L Waite 1884 -
1961
............................................ +[23] Grace Olin Dingman
1876 -
1932
.................................................. 6 [24] Donald Waite
1910
-
.................................................. 6 [25] Howard Waite
1911
-
...................................................... +[26] Ida J 1912
-
.................................................. 6 [27] Lena M Sauers
1918
-
........................................ 5 [28] Floyd H Waite 1889 -
1958
............................................ +[29] Lavina Gridley 1899 -
1998
.................................................. 6 [30] Arline Waite
1924
-
.................................................. 6 [31] Mabel Waite
1925 -
........................................ 5 [32] Leon Bradford Waite 1894
-
............................................ +[33] Yuma Christiana
Persons
1902 -
........................................ 5 [34] Willis C Waite 1896 -
1961
........................................ 5 [35] Avery E Waite 1896 -
1968
............................................ +[36] Myrtle Alt
.................................................. 6 [37] Floyd Waite
1922 -
2003
........................................ 5 [38] Aietta Waite 1899 - 1900
............................. 4 [39] Willard Wesley Waite 1860 - 1953
................................. +[40] Maryetta E VanHoosen 1859 - 1936
........................................ 5 [41] Charles Waite 1878 -
........................................ 5 [42] Emma Jane Waite 1880 -
........................................ 5 [43] George Garield Waite
1881 -
1968
............................................ +[44] Annie Emogene
Stafford
1885 - 1963
.................................................. 6 [45] Willard W
Waite
1911 - 1992
.................................................. 6 [57] Evelyn L Waite
1921 -
.................................................. 6 [59] Mildard E
Waite
1928 -
.................................................. 6 [60] Gertrude Waite
.................................................. 6 [62] Clifford Waite
........................................ 5 [63] Harry Addison Waite 1883
-
1967
............................................ +[64] Edith Kellogg 1893 -
1979
.................................................. 6 [65] Bertha Waite
.................................................. 6 [67] Henry Waite -
2000
.................................................. 6 [68] Mertie Waite
.................................................. 6 [70] Robert Waite -
1979
.................................................. 6 [71] Violet Waite -
1979
.................................................. 6 [73] Eva May Waite
1917
- 2000
.................................................. 6 [75] Kenneth K
Waite
1920 -
.................................................. 6 [76] Anna E Waite
1922
-
...................................................... +[77] Glenn
Pickard
.................................................. 6 [78] Clarence
Willard
Waite 1924 -
...................................................... +[79] Lois Emma
.................................................. 6 [82] Dorothy E
Waite
1925 -
...................................................... +[83] Alfred
Waite
.................................................. 6 [84] Della E Waite
1926
-
...................................................... +[85] Charles
Clintsman
.................................................. 6 [86] Lloyd Waite
1929 -
........................................ 5 [87] Earl V Waite 1885 - 1966
........................................ 5 [88] Willard Wesley Waite
1887 -
1971
............................................ +[89] Grace Belle Peckham
1895
- 1951
........................................ *2nd Wife of [88] Willard
Wesley
Waite:
............................................ +[90] Myrtle Spry
........................................ 5 [93] Albertie A Waite 1890 -
........................................ 5 [94] Samuel D Waite 1895 -
1957
............................................ +[95] Ella Tiff 1908 - 1991
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